In June, President Trump was asked again about those mysterious unidentified flying objects seen over New Jersey late last year. The question came from podcast host Miranda Divine on her show "Pod Force One", produced by the New York Post. And if the question seemed out of left field -- the mysterious lights in the sky are no longer in the news -- it was a good one to ask. Because nine months later, the public still has no idea what they were.
As a reminder, this was much bigger than a random UFO sighting by some guy on a farm somewhere. FBI investigators at the time collected over 3,000 witness reports. And the flying objects were seen over military sites like Naval Weapons Station Earle, and critical infrastructure like the Round Valley Reservoir. The objects were absolutely real. The FAA even restricted flights over the area.
So near the end of the forty minute interview, Divine asked if the President knew what they were. Mr. Trump said, "I can't tell you who it was or what it was, but it's not a big deal."
The dodge actually provides some clarity (and mirrors answers the President gave back in January). It confirms the government does know what the UAPs were. It also suggests they were not flown by aliens or an enemy force, but under control of the government, thus, "not a big deal".
This, of course, tells us nothing about what they were. We seem to be in a constant state of wondering, when it comes to UAPs. On the one hand, there's no doubt they're up there. On the other, the government seems to want the questions to stop there. So we're left wondering.
Although, that may have just changed.
On an episode this month of Joe Rogan's popular podcast, second-term Republican Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna said she'd seen classified photos proving the government had alien technology.
Just like that, maybe the wondering can stop.
Congresswoman Luna made it explicitly clear: "I have seen photos. So, I was in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) and I can't discuss all that was in a SCIF, but what I can tell you is based on the photos that I've seen, I'm very confident that there's things out there that have not been created by mankind."
This matches what many reputable sources claimed in Congressional testimony: that the government has an ongoing program to reverse-engineer alien technology recovered from crashes. Those witnesses include former U.S. Air Force officer David Grusch, retired U.S. Navy Commander David Fravor, former U.S. Navy pilot Ryan Graves, and former Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell. From the testimony of these and others, we are meant to understand alien technology not only exists, but is being actively tested for use by the U.S. Government.
Their testimony lines up with information Congresswoman Luna has received in her position as chair of the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets and member of the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Caucus. According to Luna, "there is definitely something that I think would rival what we know currently with physics and a tech . . . something that I can tell you with confidence that exists that we don't know how to explain currently."
Fellow UAP Caucus member Rep. Tim Burchett tried to warn us back in March of 2023, telling Newsweek magazine, "UFO technology is possibly being reverse-engineered right now." Burchett insisted the U.S. has "recovered a craft at some point, and possible beings".
Physicist Hal Puthoff is another prominent voice trying to warn us. Puthoff served as a contractor and senior advisor for both the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) and its successor, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) -- both U.S. government initiatives focused on unexplained aerial phenomena. In an earlier Joe Rogan podcast, Mr. Puthoff shared that he participated in a classified meeting to evaluate the potential societal fallout of disclosing that the U.S., Russia, and China had recovered extraterrestrial craft and biologics. While we wonder if it's true, the major world powers debate if we should know at all.
Congresswoman Luna came face to face with the cover up in 2023.
In January, a U.S. Air Force pilot flying a mission in the Gulf of Mexico, off the coast of Florida, reported seeing a group of four UAPs on radar. Upon closer approach, the pilot visually observed one of the objects, describing it as the size and shape of an Apollo spacecraft, with a "gunmetal gray" conical top and an "orange-reddish" illuminated, rounded bottom.
When the pilot closed to within 4,000 feet of the object, the aircraft's radar malfunctioned and became disabled for the rest of the flight. For some reason, a circuit breaker tripped.
Representatives Luna and Burchett both investigated the incident. The Department of Defense told them the objects were "very likely an ordinary object," such as a commercial lighting balloon. Nothing to see here.
Except the pilot's radar showed a group of four UAPs flying in a "clear diamond formation." If you've ever watched balloons floating in the sky, you know they don't stay in locked formation. This made no sense. And the pilot described "blurry air" around the objects, like a heat signature, also inconsistent with a balloon. Most important, the unclassified summary of the incident notes that "no airspeeds were noted for any of the UAP in this report." Any balloon would have a clear airspeed relative to the ground. It would be determined by the wind speed at its altitude. The lack of a recorded airspeed is a sign the objects were not behaving according to known aerodynamic principles.
It might be time to stop wondering.
The question is no longer if they're covering something up -- we're seeing it in plain sight. There are thousands of reported UAPs every year, and it's looking more and more like these are government tests of technologies beyond our understanding. Is the alien tech leading to new propulsion systems, perhaps ships that can traverse extra dimensions, as suggested by Congresswoman Luna in her interview with Rogan?
Let's hope the military gets it working before the owners get back to claim their wreckage. When that happens, it will certainly be a "big deal".